Comment on What it means to be a GEDI by tapputu

I like that you included mentions of self-work in your post! A lot of the circles I run in will talk about the work diversity does for other people, or “helping” other people lean, and tend to skip over the fact that we are learners in the process as well and learning more about ourselves, and from those we instruct, in these projects and conversations.

I have two things I’m curious about wrt/ your post and I’d like to invite you to discuss further. First, does “acceptance” do the work we need it to do in the project of creating an inclusive environment where people can grow into their full potential? Does acceptance settle to early?

Second, would you mind expanding on what you mean by “incivility towards diversity”?

Comment on Finding the Balance by tapputu

Another person with anxiety checking-in! Like Alex my sarcasm level tends to go up the more anxious I am (which probably explains why I’m so sarcastic in our Wednesday night classes…whoops). I really appreciate the fact that you own the anxiety part.

Question:

What do you think about the possibility of respect being a mutable, flexible, and emergent property? (Maybe, even something that sometimes (often?) isn’t the way we normally conceptualize it.)

When I read your post it reminded me a lot of something called Restorative Practices and being in the “with” box which is high in both support and “control” (challenge). This dynamic usually includes mutual respect but doesn’t expect the respect to be a given at the start, but rather takes it as something that is made, remade, changed, and adapted to the people doing the relating.

Thoughts?

Comment on Finding the Balance by tapputu

Another person with anxiety checking-in! Like Alex my sarcasm level tends to go up the more anxious I am (which probably explains why I’m so sarcastic in our Wednesday night classes…whoops). I really appreciate the fact that you own the anxiety part.

Question:

What do you think about the possibility of respect being a mutable, flexible, and emergent property? (Maybe, even something that sometimes (often?) isn’t the way we normally conceptualize it.)

When I read your post it reminded me a lot of something called Restorative Practices and being in the “with” box which is high in both support and “control” (challenge). This dynamic usually includes mutual respect but doesn’t expect the respect to be a given at the start, but rather takes it as something that is made, remade, changed, and adapted to the people doing the relating.

Thoughts?

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Comment on My personal teaching evolution by tapputu

I really like that you gave us a narrative, and a history, for your current perception of what it means for you to have an “authentic teaching self”. It’s always fascinating to hear from folks who have been in leadership positions outside of academia, and worked in different models of community development for example, about how the skills they bring from those other areas complement, conflict, and sometimes are remade by the necessities of their current positions.

Just for the sake of inquiry: what do you think would happen if we rewrote the books on how karate or math were instructed to mesh with more “guide on the side” style philosophies?

Comment on So they can grab the hands of a thousand more… by tapputu

I agree with Mary, this doesn’t sound like a utopia (i.e., a place that doesn’t exist lol) at all! If anything it sounds like you’re already trying to model the problem posing model Freire talks about (I think we read Pedagogy of the Oppressed next week). I really appreciate that you’re creating a collaborative space in which students can be both invested in their education and in the education of others.

It sounds fabulous!

p.s., when I was reading your blog I kept expecting “habodah” to pop up. It reads like a lot of the educational liberation scholarship I’m familiar with!

Comment on I Have Two Voices: One Is Silent by tapputu

Ha. The Silence will do that!

Your blog is fabulous. When I think back to the profs I really admired in undergrad they, too, were a bit “weird” in their own way. E.g., cycling 10 miles to school (in spandex and walking into the department in said spandex…don’t think I’ll ever forget that day), not teaching in shoes, having eccentric shirts, drawing a ton of pictures on the board, etc.

Now I want to go binge watch Doctor Who…maybe for spring break!

Comment on I Have Two Voices: One Is Silent by tapputu

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If only it was always self-sustaining! Sometimes they don’t quite self-govern/process in the best of ways but…I think they improve over the semester? I hope?

Opinions and politics of disclosure is such a complicated thing and I feel conflicted about it on a good day! For some things, I think that it’s best to stay verbally neutral in the classroom about the topic. But for other things, it sometimes will open up the conversation. Kinda like identity as opposed to opinion based disclosure: who get to disclose without concern but who gets concerned to disclose…this is getting to philosophical for me!

Comment on Engage your imagination’s Edu-drive! by tapputu

Hmm…I think I have two thoughts that come to mind. The first gauges scope (and has a lot of external processing, sorry!) and the second offers some possible pushback/a request for nuance.

First, I agree with you that Lacoste’s method may be limited insofar as there are some courses that would not be (at least currently if not on the whole) unamenable to the Starbucks style menu of course choices that he is using for his class. But, I didn’t take him to be furnishing a universal claim that this is how all courses ought to be set-up. I think that in general there may be at least some courses that can and ought to be set up in a more student controlled mode and I’m skeptical of appeals to uncertainty and implausibly as reasons to not reform systems and structures. For example, if G students learns through pictures and Y students learns through silently reading an article, and both can get to the same level of competency/ability/progress with respect to x, it seems objectionable to say to the G students “sorry, we only do Y style here” as opposed to changing the accessibility of the course to now be, well, accessible to different styles of learning. While some folks take the “well Y style is just what we do and it’s worked” or “it would just be too much time” I don’t share the intuition that these are weighty considerations as opposed to questions of values. As such, do you find less concern with a weaker as opposed to universal claim of application for Lacoste’s method?

Second, I wanted to flag something you said about Carnes. When folks say “Well, they just aren’t cut out for [insert field/class/course/profession]” it always raises a concern for me. Historically, we know that this kind of thought process was used, and is used, to both exclude women, for example, from a number of jobs and to excuse behavior that contributed their exclusion.

Common train of thoughts: Women repeatedly fail to excel in class x? They must just not be cut out for it.

What else was going on (that this common line misses): The women were often ignored, tokenized, ridiculed, etc. in the classroom and felt so excluded and unwelcome that they decided to go into another profession.

While I agree that not everyone is cut out for everything (that seems pretty tautological), I also think that it is important to name that sometimes people are cut out for [insert field/class/course/profession] but fail to excel due to the structure of the system and not due to intrinsic inability. I don’t think we can mention the former without mentioning the latter since sometimes the problem is the measure and not the person being measured.

Comment on I Want an Educational System… by tapputu

I agree that what is imaginable may not always be (metaphysically) realizable, and I always wonder whether or not too many things get dismissed due to us not being able to think of *how* they could be realizable or being willing to stay in an area of uncertainty with respect to their attainability even while recreating, and uncreating, systems, structures, and the like. I shall have to keep pondering this.